What's the point of probation?

[Froomple]

I really dont understand the limitations of newly registered members. Anyone is allowed to spam the forums at their own will. A good example , which is yet to be rectified : http://www.besthostingforums.com/member.php?u=55566.

Look at the number of threads he created

And this adds to the thread created by geezus

Something needs to be done here. Restrict the permissions to creatre threads and once they reach atleast 10 or more posts.

Froomple Reviewed by Froomple on 15th Nov 2012. What's the point of probation? I really dont understand the limitations of newly registered members. Anyone is allowed to spam the forums at their own will. A good example , which is yet to be rectified : http://www.besthostingforums.com/member.php?u=55566. Look at the number of threads he created :facepalm: And this adds to the thread created by geezus :P Something needs to be done here. Restrict the permissions to creatre threads and once they reach atleast 10 or more posts. Rating: 5

[CJ]

IF we restrict the permissions, new users would complain more. With so much of freedom given to new users, still; I have one of my friend on this forum who says thr are way tooooo many restrictions to get out of probation. So lets not make it more complicated & frustrating for new users & keep it as it is right now imho.

[Froomple]

IF we restrict the permissions, new users would complain more. With so much of freedom given to new users, still; I have one of my friend on this forum who says thr are way tooooo many restrictions to get out of probation. So lets not make it more complicated & frustrating for new users & keep it as it is right now imho.

If you dont want any restrictions, what's the point of probation?

[CJ]

with probation, user is restricted to some sections only. & thats the point of probation

[Froomple]

Well, imo a sPam is a sPam, regardless of the section. And a new user mustn't be allowed to create threads until he reaches 10 posts.
Which can be helpful to track any new spammer, before he can start a new thread.
This makes it easy for everyone. And db is less affected.

[cvrle77]

Well, imo a sPam is a sPam, regardless of the section. And a new user mustn't be allowed to create threads until he reaches 10 posts.

That's exactly what will make them to spam more.
Also, their ability to create thread is our advantage, we can see when they create thread, instantly.
If they need to spam inside some topic, then we need to rely on reports from users.
Also, not all spam is same type of spam. There's bot spam, and there's manual spam.
Bot spam are cvv, stolen cc, etc posts, manual spam is posting own site links in introduction section, and similar. We treat them differently, bots are banned instantly, while with manual spam, we look at each case, and based on the weight, we decide will we ban user, or it was just an honest mistake.
We are not cruel predators, with easy ban fingers.
As you can see, forum is clean from spam-bots. You simply cannot totally prevent them from spamming, they will adopt easily.

[Froomple]

That's exactly what will make them to spam more.
Also, their ability to create thread is our advantage, we can see when they create thread, instantly.
If they need to spam inside some topic, then we need to rely on reports from users.
Also, not all spam is same type of spam. There's bot spam, and there's manual spam.
Bot spam are cvv, stolen cc, etc posts, manual spam is posting own site links in introduction section, and similar. We treat them differently, bots are banned instantly, while with manual spam, we look at each case, and based on the weight, we decide will we ban user, or it was just an honest mistake.
We are not cruel predators, with easy ban fingers.

i am not at all talking about moderators and banning here.
I am talking about probationary members. The rules are not just enough, to restrict them from spam. And today's spam was not small. It made the forum look so bad. Allowing users to create threads, is so lame, and for a forum like KWWH, we must do something.
I'm sure many will agree that our forum was looking so bad, with soo many cc, cvv lame threads.

All i can see from staff replies here, that this won't be done.
Atleast restrict probationary members from posting lengthy threads or posting links on the threads.
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[AJ Blacklisted]

Block the new users to post links in site.

[CJ]

ok so u mean new user should be bared from making new thread in any of the section ? So for getting out of probation he should make random 10 posts like "thank you" on some or the other thread ? thats more like spam to me. The spam u are talking about can be deleted once someone reports or once some mods get to that thread but "inviting" users to make meaningless posts to get out of thr probation shell is just tooooo bad idea imo brother.

[Froomple]

Just exclude the introduction section prolly?