Tips for uploaders and filehost

[Soom]

Dear fellow member,

I just wanted for my first post share some thought about the way to make the file hosting business survive :

Uploaders :

Stop being dumb and lazy, and start to adapt to the guys who want to put your business down

- Don't put direct links to file host with illegal contents, you make dmca request only easier:
Solution : use link protection like protectup.com or any other

- Don't put the name of the file host service.
Solution: use their image logo instead (and in the code don't name the image with the file host name of course)

-Rename your files with hard to guess names
Solution: you can save your file with any crypted name, you don't need to put the exact name, your user already know what he/she's downloading.

I hope this can help

[Edit]

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/512

(a) Transitory Digital Network Communications.— A service provider shall not be liable for monetary relief, or, except as provided in subsection (j), for injunctive or other equitable relief, for infringement of copyright by reason of the provider’s transmitting, routing, or providing connections for, material through a system or network controlled or operated by or for the service provider, or by reason of the intermediate and transient storage of that material in the course of such transmitting, routing, or providing connections, if—
(1) the transmission of the material was initiated by or at the direction of a person other than the service provider;
(2) the transmission, routing, provision of connections, or storage is carried out through an automatic technical process without selection of the material by the service provider;

Soom Reviewed by Soom on 15th Oct 2012. Tips for uploaders and filehost Dear fellow member, I just wanted for my first post share some thought about the way to make the file hosting business survive : Uploaders : Stop being dumb and lazy, and start to adapt to the guys who want to put your business down - Don't put direct links to file host with illegal contents, you make dmca request only easier: Solution : use link protection like protectup.com or any other Rating: 5

[coolro]

Dmca Content = Sales
No dmca content = no sales , no filehosting , no money , scam etc

Everything is simple

Good tips + for uploaders

[ms7]

Dmca Content = Sales
No dmca content = no sales , no filehosting , no money , scam etc

Everything is simple

Good tips + for uploaders

these days dmca content=sales=scam=where's my money=mods pls ban this thief.

[Soom]

Dmca Content = Sales
No dmca content = no sales , no filehosting , no money , scam etc

Everything is simple

Good tips + for uploaders

Sure !!! no dmca = no business
My point was : How can we all be dumb enough to let ourselves get bust so easily.
If we all accepted to work by those rules and maybe others we could make things harder for our enemies.

[examan345]

most forum does not allow link protector
changing filename does not help stop the dmca

[Soom]

maybe forums don't but blogs should.
forum must also adapt.
If every file host start to delete their files they will adapt.

I don't know if crypting name don't stop dmca, but it make it harder

[KaraMustafa]

changing filename does not help stop the dmca

After few years i can definitely agree with it.
Changing filenames as adding passwords to rar's doesn't help.

[Soom]

guys I m sorry I didn't made my point clearly ... my bad

The problem is not DMCA : The problem is file host doing business with payment gateway in order for uploaders to get paid.

In order for uploaders to get paid, file host must stay in business with payment gateway.
To stay in business with payment gateway, file host will sooner or later have to stop acting like rogue business and enforce rules : like controlling the files they host.
To do so they will have to take certain measure like I explained in the first post.
So even if they have DMCA requests, their payment gateway will not limit or stop their contract. Because they are showing good faith in their business practice.

So let's say I m a file hoster, if a DMCA request comes for a file with an obscure filename, at least I could say I did my best to enforce my policies.
But if my uploaders are acting blindly and posting direct links with well identified illegal filenames, to my host, they are clearly ruining my relationship with my payment gateway.

Of course, if your way of uploading is to post on forums with direct links to well identified pirated content, then your business model is doomed just like the rogue file host showing no good manners ...

---------- Post added at 05:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:34 AM ----------

Another point to make is that with such practice file hosts could easily get a Paypal and a Google Adsense account, which mean more sales and money for the industry.

I'm sorry to not see more reaction about this topic.

[WDF]

The problem is you do great with your posts until you put the file host together with pirate or piracy, then you attract unwanted attention and screw the file hosts and uploaders.

[Soom]

You right WDF ... sorry

---------- Post added at 09:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:29 PM ----------

They'd lose safe harbors rights if they were actively searching users content like this. Wide open for lawsuits

I'm just trying to open a discussion about this, because if the industry don't adapt it will disappear.
If you guys have better ideas, I m eager to share and learn

edit:
After some research, Jesse is indeed right.(as edited in the first post)
Paradoxically, any pro active action taken by the file host, will make him loose the safe harbor rights.

Best practices then, should be implemented by uploaders.