bitcoin filelocker, a survey

[kapitalnie]

No, this would never work, ever.

Sorry to tell you but this is doomed before it even begins, from the simple choice of bitcoins.

Uploaders will love it. Bitcoins? No trace, no chance of your filehost getting cut off like the rest, whats to lose, right?

Users, however, will NEVER use it. you really think a user is going to come along, see your filehost and think, "oh, they only accept bitcoins, i better go lookup this obscure, shady payment method and spend 30 mins figuring it out so i can signup". No, of course not. They will see it and think, "bitcoins? what?" then move on and get the file elsewhere.

Bitcoins will never work for paying filehosts, ever.

Well, partially I agree with you but in the TOR network BitCoins are used every day.

Maybe it's not gonna work straight away but if people get know that Bitcoins are actually very easy to get and by using them you are anonymous, they'll get used to it. But in order to do that someone should run very stable, reliable and trusted filehosting, actually very powerful filehosting so that people get know there are bitcoins and so that this information will spread all over the world. One man with small filehost will not change a thing if there are several filehosts offering various payment methods that people are used to.

[ilarin]

@JMZ

You have a point that it wont get as many sales as CC or PP but the days of filehosting sites offering PP and soon CC on their sites are coming to and end, the events of last month and daily account closures and copyright vigilantes are making it impossible for filehosting sites to use PayPal
Yes new sites will pop in an out of existence, promise riches and then disappear once their PP is frozen, just take a cursory look at threads in this forum...

What I am trying to do is to think of a longer term stable solution

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@user7331

Doesnt have to be specifically bitcoin only, can offer liberty reserve, WM, prepaid cards as well of course, anything but paypal and CCs, and more importantly irreversable

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@Jesse
Sorry but I already have 7 years admin experience of a large file locker sites and have coded a large site that is still running to this day and many users here use daily, I dont have to prove my **** is bigger than yours nor care, i am here to brainstorm and get feedback, unless you think this forum doesn't deserve a thread that's actually interesting

I am trying to think of the future here and a separate project for the longterm so I can get another 7 years in the business


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@iconico
The price has been quite steady in last year
http://blockchain.info/charts/market-price

anyways no one keeps money for long time in the coins themselves, using mt gox can convert between USD and BTC in a second.

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@JmZ

All those "crappy" and large hosts are going belly up or gone mad deleting files and accounts, that is not the future


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@kapitalnie

Yes coins are very easy to get, in cash in shops by mobile or bank transfer, for example BitInstant in https://www.bitinstant.com/ in USA, Russia and Brazil. no lack of ways of getting them > https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Buying_bitcoins

more importantly its popular by gamblers and gambling sites were "outlawed" in a similar manner filehosting sites are being targeted now by having their CC processing withdrawn and countries like USA effective criminalisation of online gambling, this is where filehosting industry is now rapidly heading

[WDF]

The average downloader is not going to use bitcoins to buy premium, you only think it is a good idea because you would not be buying the premium and see it as a way to beat the recent paypal/cc actions against rogue file hosts.

When file hosts stop paying for downloads and start really policing their servers for copyright infringement paypal will relax the restrictions.

[Jesse]

@Jesse
Sorry but I already have 7 years admin experience of a large file locker sites and have coded a large site that is still running to this day and many users here use daily, I dont have to prove my **** is bigger than yours nor care, i am here to brainstorm and get feedback, unless you think this forum doesn't deserve a thread that's actually interesting

I am trying to think of the future here and a separate project for the longterm so I can get another 7 years in the business

so? no reason to put down a great script. I have it used on many sites for the past 4 years. It's a great start. Sure, you need to make mods yourself, but whatever.

[JmZ]

Well, partially I agree with you but in the TOR network BitCoins are used every day.

This isn't TOR, this the web.

One is full of criminals, pedophiles and people suffering from paranoia.
The other is full of customers, businesses and legitimate things.

@JMZ

You have a point that it wont get as many sales as CC or PP but the days of filehosting sites offering PP and soon CC on their sites are coming to and end, the events of last month and daily account closures and copyright vigilantes are making it impossible for filehosting sites to use PayPal
Yes new sites will pop in an out of existence, promise riches and then disappear once their PP is frozen, just take a cursory look at threads in this forum...

It would get almost zero sales. Definitely not enough to break even, meaning no money to cover server costs, meaning no filehost.

Bitcoins will not work for this business model, fact.

[ilarin]

Jesse i wasn't "slamming" it (tho' it is crap but that's a whole separate thread, lets not go of on a tangent here), just making clear that what I am planning is not yet another run of the mill, pop in and out of existence filelocker site with a retarded name, there's plenty of those already.

I could start a site, promise 99% share build a nice pyramid scheme (as is happening here all the time) and then leave affiliates and paying users with their pants down. It might work once or twice but its a lot of work for little return

now on the other hand a site that can last years can rake in serious money, you know the saying "slow and steady wins the race"

[Jesse]

You obviously have shit cgi skills then if you think it's shit.