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    #11
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    xrumergeek.com seotechie.com
    I'm not sure how you are drawing the conclusion that Web 2.0 Properties are automatic. I'm talking sites with quality content (not your standard 2 page setup!) that serve a purpose and give users value. These then linking to your "money site" are highly effective and will continue to be so in the future when done correctly. The issue isn't with the idea, it's not blackhat whatsoever, the issue is with most peoples implementation of the method.

    With regards to link building to these properties, if you're going about it the right way you are not risking anything other than the 2.0 property itself. No footprint to your main site(s) is going to be found IF you're creating Web 2.0's in the way they should be created, organically, adding value, and not with links plastered from head to toe. If you're super cautious though- stay away from the lower quality links- still use 2.0's but opt for quality.

    Even if Google suddenly decide to count Web 2.0 Properties as blackhat (They currently DO NOT providing they are done like highlighted above- Matt Cutts has confirmed this, do a quick Google search) the footprint stops with the tier 2 site, not the money site it's linking to (unless you've set the properties up idiotically - ie; ONLY linked to your site(s)...include some authority external links too..Google...Yahoo...Wiki etc)As someone who has been in the industry full time for six years, Penguin was never going to be a shock to the system. Those that evolve with the engine will survive, those that don't, won't.

    XG

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    #12
    Google Corp.
    ^ Good reply. I didn't quite understand what you meant earlier but it's clear now.

    But regarding the same thing - will you be linking them in a way where there is 'link wheel' structure or just creating high quality stadalone web 2.0 properties and using them to link dynamically to your 'money site'?

    From what I have been reading, Google is weeding out for networks of web 2.0 pages which link to each other in a web or network. Thus building authority and passing it onto the end site or page. I'm guessing you're not doing it that way.


    Yeah, Penguin was inevitable.

    Life asked Death: "Why do people love me, but hate you?"
    Death responded: "Because you're a beautiful lie and I'm the painful truth."


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    #13
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    Website's:
    xrumergeek.com seotechie.com
    I'm not sure how effective old fashioned inter-linked wheels are anymore; it's certainly not something we implement ourselves. If I was advising a new starter, I would suggest standalone properties with at least 5 pages of unique quality content, and encourage them to constantly find new ways of linking out without it seeming forced. One method we often use (I briefly touched upon it in my previous reply) is to link to an authority site in the same article we choose to link to our own. Any property you create which only links externally to one site is going to raise a big red flag.

    The reason why I think it's worth the time and effort to go about doing this is because you can be more aggressive with your link build if you follow the steps above, as any negative penalties will be applied to the 2.0 property as opposed to your main websites. Okay- you may have lost a few hours of your precious time, but at least your site is still indexed, right?

    Final tip to anyone interested in these replies- always look to customize the theme of your properties. Another red flag from a manual review would be to have the default Wordpress theme and in some cases, the default categories and sample page! Take a little extra time to do things right, and things will start to happen.

    XG

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    #14
    Member
    pick another username please. You are insulting a great person ever lived. You may tweak a letter. But it still sounds disturbing.
    Mod please help him change it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Buddah View Post
    God forbid websites actually have quality content. All I see from most of these SEO "services" is regurgitated crap. I've said it all along, content is and always will be the most important factor in a site's success.

    I'm glad Google took a major step and modified their system to prioritize content. Sham back links from high PR sites will soon be automatically disqualified in the near future, I believe, as well. Google wants to stay on top, so their steps to remain there are logical and predictable.

    All those who worshiped link directories, farms, and forums are now at a disadvantage -- as it should be. Laziness should not be rewarded.

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    #15
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    XenMoney.com DGXForum.com
    Quote Originally Posted by SJshah View Post
    This is a great article for everyone who is getting SEO work done.

    Basically 90% of the "SEOs" on KWWH are using one of these methods, which no longer work - infact, will have a negative effect on your search engine rankings.

    17 Types of Link Spam to Avoid:
    1. Cleansing Domains
    2. Blog Networks & Poorly Executed Guest Blogs
    3. Article Marketing Spam
    4. Single-Post Blogs
    5. (Paid) Site-Wide Links
    6. Paid Links in Content
    7. Link Exchanges, Wheels, etc.
    8. Low-Quality Press Release Syndication
    9. Linkbait and Switch
    10. Directories
    11. Link Farms and Networks
    12. Social Bookmarking & Sharing Sites
    13. Forum Spam
    14. Unintended Followed Link Spam
    15. Profile Spam
    16. Comment Spam
    17. Domain Purchase and Redirect/Canonical


    To read the full article, go to:
    http://www.seomoz.org/blog/17-types-...-spam-to-avoid



    Some of these methods may still work if done correctly, in small amounts and over time - could lead to success. However, anyone using these methods for the sole purpose of manipulating Google will probably not understand how to make it look organic.

    Anyway guys, hope this helps and saves you time and money.
    All those methods is "backdoors" ways for getting Traffic, So in my opinion Google now is scanning "ilegal" ways on getting traffic to bring a site down and counts more positive in Organic Traffic from search engines

    kind regards

    xeniux
    XenMoney.com

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    #16
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    forums.webtoolhub.com directory.webtoolhub.com templates.webtoolhub.com
    A good read! Just as a controversy, this has covered almost everything that should be avoided and nothing left for doing. Actually there should be post about steps to follow while doing SEO or building backlinks.

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