Selling a Database

[RT]

The way I see it is people can get their hands on DBs easily on the net, the wrong way. There is noway of verifying that you or me actually own the DB we wish to sell. Do you know of way to do so? other than take a screenshot of the DB on ones PC?

[Mr Happy]

The way I see it is people can get their hands on DBs easily on the net, the wrong way. There is noway of verifying that you or me actually own the DB we wish to sell. Do you know of way to do so? other than take a screenshot of the DB on ones PC?

Hell ya.. The rules don't state what level of proof is needed besides that the staff have to be convinced. If a screenshot on a PC isn't enough proof then get him to put the thing online for 2-3 days. 10 minutes reading threads on the temp site and everyone will know everything about the DB and any issues it may have.

[Phozon]

I think the main reason we don't allow the sale of DB's is because in the past we've had members trying to sell stolen one's. Even going as far as downloading a DB from scriptmafia saying it's there's and being too stupid to change screenshots from the post on scriptmafia.

Just look below this thread at similar threads you'll see a thread by Luke selling a bunch of hacked DB's.
http://www.besthostingforums.com/11-...-database.html

After that the rule's about DB's started and have stuck since.

[RT]

Hell ya.. The rules don't state what level of proof is needed besides that the staff have to be convinced. If a screenshot on a PC isn't enough proof then get him to put the thing online for 2-3 days. 10 minutes reading threads on the temp site and everyone will know everything about the DB and any issues it may have.

So, I can get a hacked DB from the net which isn't mine, put it on a domain, wait a month or so to clear all suspicion, leech a few more posts to make it look like it's actually mine and come here sell it? really Happy? can't you see how this is all messed up?

[Mr Happy]

@WD
I can easily find loads of threads on KWWH of people selling scripts or themes they don't have permission to sell either. If someone puts the DB online then it's clear after 10 minutes if it's hacked or not. In fact looking at a DB online it's far easier to tell if it's legit than a theme or script.

[Phozon]

Well if you do see stolen scripts/themes there's a magic button

And that wasn't ment to sound rude. But yeah, If you/or anyone reading see's something they suspect just hit report no harm can come from it better to be safe then sorry.

[Prazsky]

What Happy is saying is that there is no way to prove that a person is selling original scripts or themes either. They can also be stolen just like a database, infact far more easily than a database. So why is there a double standard for selling databases?

If somebody knows for sure that a database is stolen, they can use the magic button too.

[pi0tr3k]

I can sell you a broken website or script too. It can and does happen. Look at the whole Pi0 thing and the script he sold and the guy not able to get it working about 2-3 weeks ago. A DB is no different and usually easier to fix and get working than a custom script.

That's the same for a theme though. I "promise" to sell only one copy

I knew this reply will be made Anyways, the script wasn't broken, only a bit outdated as you know, filehosts change

@OP: I think this is a bad idea of selling databases online. I mean, I can easily find few databases online, download them and set up on my PC then post "proof" it's mine. Look at the AW twitter page, databases ? volont?

[Lifetalk]

The process of verifying whether a script was coded by the OP or not, is easier compared to a DB. Ask the guy selling the script to make a structural change, temporarily. If he can do it, and knows his way in and out of the code, then it's most likely his. People looking to con other people by selling a stolen script most likely won't have any idea of the code structure within.

A theme is not a database; granted it's a digital good but you cannot put a theme and a database in the same category. A database is much more than just a skeleton layout for a website; it's content. Having the same database as 10 other sites out there is a significant risk to not only the site owner, but to the members in the database. Privacy, for example (emails), is a major concern. Obtaining a hacked database is far easier than obtaining a stolen script and/or design. Verifying whether a script or a theme is original, again, is far easier than a database.

Database sales were allowed, and then later disallowed because of the problems caused. Scripts/themes didn't result in as much headache as the database problems did, so they're still allowed and not banned. Go figure.

The same is the case with account vouchers/premium accounts; their origin is questionable, at best; you cannot verify their authenticity with as much ease as you can a script or a theme's origin, and they caused a lot of trouble in the past which is why they were disallowed.

Logically, there's no reason to disallow the sale of a database, but when you look at the problems and issues involved, it's just far easier to disallow them entirely then to deal with the crap involved in policing and verifying those sales.

[DLow]

The same goes for templates that are sold in the market place

IE: IPB,VB,phpBB,

As far as a DB theres a bunch of noobs here on KWWH, They could buy the db then fail to restore it